she totally did. like without even remotely a doubt.
i was listening to her speak and i’m just like…what a fucking luxury to be able to talk about things like weight and boobs——i swear nicole was going somewhere with her “ass-size” comment but she got cut off. the treatment and sexualization of black women’s bodies is VERY different.
natalie, as a white women, can sit down and talk about how “unhealthy” body image is in magazines—-blah blah blah but like what about RACE and REPRESENTATION? what about the women who ARENT seeing themselves in magazines? white actors ALWAYS ignore race and colorism when it comes to the body image issue in hollywood.
like, i’m sorry u have to be skinny but at least u’re white…? does that sound cruel? i mean whiteness opens all sorts of doors that r forever shut to actors like nicole—-regardless of talent.
i remember a hollywood roundtable where all these white actors were talking about why they didnt get roles (too fat, boobs not big enough) and i think it was regina king who made a statement that basically amounted to the reason why she didn’t get a role was because she was black. and everyone got quiet, lol. cause i mean oop u gotta lose weight? cant eat that cake? how about someone basically asking u to change the color of ur skin or the shape of ur eyes? how about that?
i dunno…natalie isn’t the first white actor to be ignorant at panels. i keep thinking about that guy from spartacus complaining about having to go tanning and wear bronzers and manu bennet just calling him out like the reason why he’s the lead is because of that. rinse and repeat with mindy kaling and the ignorant shit said to her when she talked about diversity at her roundtable. or how about EVERY hollywood roundtable where white actors get to sit around look wide-eyed and innocent while their colleagues of color talk about the lack of new projects they’re getting and the racism in the industry. those white actors and directors who listen to these statements with varying degrees of silence or open-mouthed silencing techniques.
one of these days i want somebody to stand up during one of these panels and read these white actors for filth. i aint got no problems with natalie dormer but this kind of speaking that normalizes white women and others non-white women needs to stop. at some point SOMEONE needs to acknowledge the european standards of beauty. i THOUGHT natalie was going in that direction with her whole “french films” business but it was more bullshit “oh we get to see different shapes of ppl” BUT WHITE PPL NATALIE, U GET TO SEE MORE WHITE PPL!
It really comes off as uber pretentious when people start speaking about “European films” as if they don’t have issues with representation as well.
I listened to her and she basically said nothing that hasn’t been said…like Natalie needs to understand there’s a reason why she’s on the Tudors, Elementary, Game of Thrones, in the Hunger Games as an actress who’s only claim to fame prior to that was playing the jump off for the coke addicted attorney in Silk. That she, as a white English woman, can get roles that a black American actress can’t even dream of.
So, yeah….when they talk about weight, boobs, and ass and lack thereof as a hindrance, I roll my eyes. All those superficial things can be changed if they choose. Kerry Washington made an excellent point when she did The Hollywood Reporter’s roundtable for TV actresses in the run up to the 2013 Emmys. All the women talking about having to lose weight, and she had to contend with being told she’s “too ethnic”, “the production was not ‘going black’, and she told them they could lose the weight, but she couldn’t change her skin color, nor does she want to. And then, nothing but blank stares and crickets.
Wait, I’m confused.
So a white woman (who is openly a feminist) can’t speek about issues of body image in the media and the industry she works in and how it affects youg girls, unless she always mentions woc and the issues of representation in all of her answers in every single interview she does????
Like, I’m confused.
The question wasn’t even about race or the issues with the representation of poc, it was about women and body types. And the answer Natalie gave was about how she herself is aware of that issue and that in European films had more body type diversity.
But because she didn’t say “well what about poc?!??” she’s suddenly an “entiled white actress” who “isn’t a good enough feminist” and “doesn’t understand/care about these issues”??????
I don’t see how it’s her responsibility to make the entire world aware of representation issues. And I don’t see why people are more concerned with calling out an actress instead of the the actual show creaters and writers for the issues of representation??
What about the INTERVIEWER??? Why isn’t this post about the question and not the answer? Why aren’t you saying: “why didn’t she ask about the race representation issues?” instead of “her answer was shit”?
I’m also confused why of all the people with shitty interview answers THIS is the one you are dissecting and criticizing? Really? Of all the sexist, racist people to choose from at comic con, this is the thing you have an issue with?
And honestly “Boohoo you have to be skinny. I’m black I have it harder”. Obviously poc have it much harder, and especially in this industry. But to so blantanly act as if the issue of body type, it’s effect on women and it’s connection to the descrimination of poc isn’t an issue in itself???
I’m seriously so fucking confused by this post, I truly am.
I’m pretty sure “body type” issues affect poc as well.
I’ve come to realise that people like this are why my ignore button exists.
"Wait I’m confused *teehee*"
No, you’re not, you just feel like it’s your god-given right to talk over women of colour, to treat us like we don’t know what we’re talking about and derail this conversation to center it on ~all women~ even though we’re telling you that all women aren’t represented/treated the same so therefore we can’t just have a conversation about white women and expect it to universally apply to women of colour. This is what we were complaining about in the first place. Nicki Minaj’s black ass on the cover of her single creates controversy while white women’s white asses plastered on Sports Illustrated don’t. Black women twerking is obscene while Miley Cyrus’ sad attempt isn’t. Black bodies, Asian bodies, Arab bodies, Latinx bodies are objectified in a different way than white women’s are. White women are not the “default” for discussions about issues that affect women of colour, Susan B. Anthony reincarnated.
"oh my god stop criticizing young girls who like 50 Shades of Gray or Twilight you can’t tell them what they can and can’t read"
no we can’t but we have to protect young girls from mistaking abusive behavior for genuine affection at all costs
"My response to the “I am not a feminist” internet phenomenon….
First of all, it’s clear you don’t know what feminism is. But I’m not going to explain it to you. You can google it. To quote an old friend, “I’m not the feminist babysitter.”
But here is what I think you should know.
You’re insulting every woman who was forcibly restrained in a jail cell with a feeding tube down her throat for your right to vote, less than 100 years ago.
You’re degrading every woman who has accessed a rape crisis center, which wouldn’t exist without the feminist movement.
You’re undermining every woman who fought to make marital rape a crime (it was legal until 1993).
You’re spitting on the legacy of every woman who fought for women to be allowed to own property (1848). For the abolition of slavery and the rise of the labor union. For the right to divorce. For women to be allowed to have access to birth control (Comstock laws). For middle and upper class women to be allowed to work outside the home (poor women have always worked outside the home). To make domestic violence a crime in the US (It is very much legal in many parts of the world). To make workplace sexual harassment a crime.
In short, you know not what you speak of. You reap the rewards of these women’s sacrifices every day of your life. When you grin with your cutsey sign about how you’re not a feminist, you ignorantly spit on the sacred struggle of the past 200 years. You bite the hand that has fed you freedom, safety, and a voice.
In short, kiss my ass, you ignorant little jerks.”Libby Anne (via newwavenova)